Discussion:
[Grml] grml-x, xorg ...
Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-06 14:07:00 UTC
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Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.

Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.

At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
If i do:

grml-x

the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.

How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?

How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?

Can i use orca with fluxbox?

Thanks for your help and regards.

Dietmar
Werner P. Schulz
2011-03-06 17:49:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/

It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
John G. Heim
2011-03-07 19:01:06 UTC
Permalink
There is also vinux, a ubuntu fork for blind users:

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Adaptive-Technologies/Vinux-43337.shtml

I am also blind but I usually use grml in character mode.


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From: "Werner P. Schulz" <flying at wp-schulz.de>
To: <grml at mur.at>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Grml] grml-x, xorg ...
Post by Werner P. Schulz
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/
It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
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John G. Heim
2011-03-07 19:01:06 UTC
Permalink
There is also vinux, a ubuntu fork for blind users:

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Adaptive-Technologies/Vinux-43337.shtml

I am also blind but I usually use grml in character mode.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Werner P. Schulz" <flying at wp-schulz.de>
To: <grml at mur.at>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Grml] grml-x, xorg ...
Post by Werner P. Schulz
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/
It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
_______________________________________________
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John G. Heim
2011-03-07 19:01:06 UTC
Permalink
There is also vinux, a ubuntu fork for blind users:

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Adaptive-Technologies/Vinux-43337.shtml

I am also blind but I usually use grml in character mode.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Werner P. Schulz" <flying at wp-schulz.de>
To: <grml at mur.at>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Grml] grml-x, xorg ...
Post by Werner P. Schulz
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/
It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
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Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 15:20:41 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.

Hope this helps,

regards,
-mika-
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Rooster Cogburn
2011-03-07 15:55:17 UTC
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This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Post by Michael Prokop
Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.
Hope this helps,
regards,
-mika-
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Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 16:03:02 UTC
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Post by Rooster Cogburn
This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Yeah, the official grml-small doesn't ship X.org. :)

BTW: I strongly recommend using grml-medium as a base for
remastering (in general, unless you have a really good reason to do
otherwise :)), especially if you want to use X.org.

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 16:03:02 UTC
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Post by Rooster Cogburn
This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Yeah, the official grml-small doesn't ship X.org. :)

BTW: I strongly recommend using grml-medium as a base for
remastering (in general, unless you have a really good reason to do
otherwise :)), especially if you want to use X.org.

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 16:03:02 UTC
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Post by Rooster Cogburn
This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Yeah, the official grml-small doesn't ship X.org. :)

BTW: I strongly recommend using grml-medium as a base for
remastering (in general, unless you have a really good reason to do
otherwise :)), especially if you want to use X.org.

regards,
-mika-
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Rooster Cogburn
2011-03-07 15:55:17 UTC
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This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Post by Michael Prokop
Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.
Hope this helps,
regards,
-mika-
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Rooster Cogburn
2011-03-07 15:55:17 UTC
Permalink
This helps a lot. I've also been having trouble using grml-x from a
grml-small iso. I haven't complained since it's a grml-small squeeze
iso I made with grml-live.
Post by Michael Prokop
Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.
Hope this helps,
regards,
-mika-
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Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-07 19:03:00 UTC
Permalink
Hallo Mika,

thanks for your answer.
Also i have shown the netbook after start grml-x with fluxbox to a seeing
person.
They told me, that there is a winter picture and aclock at the bottom. But
nothing habpens, if i press some keys as alt-tab ctrl-alt-tab alt-f1 ...
And i can not shutdown the xserver or stop fluxbox and there is not
textconsole with speakup for me.

Regards
Dietmar
Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-06 14:07:00 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.

Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.

At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
If i do:

grml-x

the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.

How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?

How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?

Can i use orca with fluxbox?

Thanks for your help and regards.

Dietmar
Werner P. Schulz
2011-03-06 17:49:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/

It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 15:20:41 UTC
Permalink
Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.

Hope this helps,

regards,
-mika-
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Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-07 19:03:00 UTC
Permalink
Hallo Mika,

thanks for your answer.
Also i have shown the netbook after start grml-x with fluxbox to a seeing
person.
They told me, that there is a winter picture and aclock at the bottom. But
nothing habpens, if i press some keys as alt-tab ctrl-alt-tab alt-f1 ...
And i can not shutdown the xserver or stop fluxbox and there is not
textconsole with speakup for me.

Regards
Dietmar
Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-06 14:07:00 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.

Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.

At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
If i do:

grml-x

the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.

How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?

How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?

Can i use orca with fluxbox?

Thanks for your help and regards.

Dietmar
Werner P. Schulz
2011-03-06 17:49:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Hello,
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
... why not try ADRIANE-KNOPPIX 6.4.4. CD?
ftp://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/knoppix/

It is a special version for blind peoples Klaus Knopper has developed
because his wife is also blind.
--
Gruss Werner * http://www.wp-schulz.de/rettung.html
Eigene Rescue-CD mit Knoppix (Knoppix V6.4.4 remaster)
Michael Prokop
2011-03-07 15:20:41 UTC
Permalink
Hi,
Post by Dietmar Segbert
i have installed grml squeeze on a asus eeepc 1005ha-m.
I sue speakup and brltty, because i am blind.
Now i want to use gnomes-orca with firefox and openoffice with gnome.
At the moment i do not have installed gnome.
grml-x
the xserver starts, but i can not come back to the textconsole. ctrl-alt-
f(x) will not work, also not the ctrl-alt-bacspace to shutdown the
xserver.
This sounds strange. Are you speaking about Grml 2010.12?
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i set the xorg correct for the asus 1005ha-m?
It's supposed to work out of the box, if not it's either a bug in
X.org or in your hardware. :)
Post by Dietmar Segbert
How can i start the xserver to console tty7?
Should be the default, but you can force it running
'grml-x --force --display 7 ...'
Post by Dietmar Segbert
On my system are only the consoles tty1 to tty6for switching between
themself configurede, ist that correct?
For grml2hd: yes.
Post by Dietmar Segbert
Can i use orca with fluxbox?
Could work (never tried on my own though), but at least until you've
a working setup I recommend using it inside gnome before.
Installing gnome-core and 'grml-x gnome-session' (IIRC it's called
gnome-session) should do that.

Hope this helps,

regards,
-mika-
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Dietmar Segbert
2011-03-07 19:03:00 UTC
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Hallo Mika,

thanks for your answer.
Also i have shown the netbook after start grml-x with fluxbox to a seeing
person.
They told me, that there is a winter picture and aclock at the bottom. But
nothing habpens, if i press some keys as alt-tab ctrl-alt-tab alt-f1 ...
And i can not shutdown the xserver or stop fluxbox and there is not
textconsole with speakup for me.

Regards
Dietmar
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