[Grml] systemd

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You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think
Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at
startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of
course it is your decision.

If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're
invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up
file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being
the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to
be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it).

Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will
not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is
also listed in
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions
I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there
will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd
free.
Regards
Klaus

...

Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system,
myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some
of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days.
Just my 2p.
Cheers

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You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think
Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at
startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of
course it is your decision.

If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're
invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up
file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being
the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to
be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it).

Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will
not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is
also listed in
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions
I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there
will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd
free.
Regards
Klaus

Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery system,
myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version fails on some
of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan image these days.
Just my 2p.
Cheers

...

And I need a version with zfs support, so I need to either remaster or
if someone has one, that would be great.
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Le Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:04:50 +0200,

Post by ***@fsfe.org

Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I
will not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But
as grml is also listed in
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions
I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there
will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this
systemd free.

Systemd is the reason why I dropped GRML as an admin/recovery
system, myself. or rather GRML dropped me, as the sytemd version
fails on some of my older hardware. I mostly use a custom devuan
image these days. Just my 2p.

We don't have an official Grml release using systemd as init system
yet, so I've no idea what you're referring to,

...

Correct. It still causes issues with peripherals, fatal in some cases.
(on older hardware).

also I'm not aware of
an according bug report at all.

There is certainly none from me ; it may sound selfish but systemd
doesn't do anything I need or want, so I may use it if it works but I
won't install a debugging framework on low-resource systems to make it
work.
I don't usually file bug reports against Microsoft operating
systems either.