Discussion:
[Grml] daily.grml.org questions
Keith Hinton
2009-03-08 02:41:39 UTC
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I have a question or so about the grml.org daily snapshots:
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Another question:
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Regards, --Keith
Michael Prokop
2009-03-08 03:16:05 UTC
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Post by Keith Hinton
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Seriously: please use plain Debian for running servers! If you like
grml's zsh, vim, screen,... configuration you can get it without the
need for a full grml installation as well. Installation of Debian
from grml is possible via grml-debootstrap.
Post by Keith Hinton
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Daily snapshots are just what will become a stable release once. Our
development cycles regarding releases looks like this:

- daily snapshots: for testing current development, for bug hunting...
- development releases: point-releases between 2 stable releases,
so several users can test new features and report bugs against a
specific version
- release candidates: pre-release(s) of a new stable version,
meant to be in a pretty good shape already and calling for public
testing ("will all the stuff that's important to me work in the
new stable release?")
- stable release: what's known as officially announced, widely
tested version

So the daily snapshots provide all the stuff that will be shipped
with a new stable once. Regarding your answer: yes, the large grml
flavour includes the usual accessibility features.

regards,
-mika-
--
http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins
http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge
http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog
#grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc
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Keith Hinton
2009-03-08 02:41:39 UTC
Permalink
I have a question or so about the grml.org daily snapshots:
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Another question:
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Regards, --Keith
Michael Prokop
2009-03-08 03:16:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Keith Hinton
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Seriously: please use plain Debian for running servers! If you like
grml's zsh, vim, screen,... configuration you can get it without the
need for a full grml installation as well. Installation of Debian
from grml is possible via grml-debootstrap.
Post by Keith Hinton
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Daily snapshots are just what will become a stable release once. Our
development cycles regarding releases looks like this:

- daily snapshots: for testing current development, for bug hunting...
- development releases: point-releases between 2 stable releases,
so several users can test new features and report bugs against a
specific version
- release candidates: pre-release(s) of a new stable version,
meant to be in a pretty good shape already and calling for public
testing ("will all the stuff that's important to me work in the
new stable release?")
- stable release: what's known as officially announced, widely
tested version

So the daily snapshots provide all the stuff that will be shipped
with a new stable once. Regarding your answer: yes, the large grml
flavour includes the usual accessibility features.

regards,
-mika-
--
http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins
http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge
http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog
#grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc
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Keith Hinton
2009-03-08 02:41:39 UTC
Permalink
I have a question or so about the grml.org daily snapshots:
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Another question:
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Regards, --Keith
Michael Prokop
2009-03-08 03:16:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Keith Hinton
I know that bugs can occur majorly, and all of that.
But Has anyone thought of making full grml releases that are based off
of Debian stable so that people can successfully run servers with grml
if they choose, without being forced to install Debian?Just curious!
Seriously: please use plain Debian for running servers! If you like
grml's zsh, vim, screen,... configuration you can get it without the
need for a full grml installation as well. Installation of Debian
from grml is possible via grml-debootstrap.
Post by Keith Hinton
Do the daily snapshots of GRML contain Speakup?
Or, does only the GRML devel releases etc contain accessibility support?
The daily grml page does not mention specifically if the visually
impaired access is vailable in those builds.
Daily snapshots are just what will become a stable release once. Our
development cycles regarding releases looks like this:

- daily snapshots: for testing current development, for bug hunting...
- development releases: point-releases between 2 stable releases,
so several users can test new features and report bugs against a
specific version
- release candidates: pre-release(s) of a new stable version,
meant to be in a pretty good shape already and calling for public
testing ("will all the stuff that's important to me work in the
new stable release?")
- stable release: what's known as officially announced, widely
tested version

So the daily snapshots provide all the stuff that will be shipped
with a new stable once. Regarding your answer: yes, the large grml
flavour includes the usual accessibility features.

regards,
-mika-
--
http://grml.org/ # Linux for texttool-users and sysadmins
http://wiki.grml.org/ # share your knowledge
http://grml.supersized.org/ # the grml development weblog
#grml @ irc.freenode.org # meet us on irc
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