Discussion:
[Grml] GRML's udev and Debian's udev
Michael Whapples
2009-10-24 10:41:03 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.

On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
This raises a few questions:

* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?

Thank you

Michael Whapples
Michael Prokop
2009-10-26 23:19:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Whapples
2009-10-27 11:26:44 UTC
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Thanks for the info. I crossed my fingers and had a working GRML CD to
hand and did the udev upgrade, not a problem there.

Michael Whapples
Post by Michael Prokop
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0>= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.
regards,
-mika-
Michael Whapples
2009-10-27 11:26:44 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the info. I crossed my fingers and had a working GRML CD to
hand and did the udev upgrade, not a problem there.

Michael Whapples
Post by Michael Prokop
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0>= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.
regards,
-mika-
Michael Whapples
2009-10-27 11:26:44 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the info. I crossed my fingers and had a working GRML CD to
hand and did the udev upgrade, not a problem there.

Michael Whapples
Post by Michael Prokop
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0>= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.
regards,
-mika-
Michael Whapples
2009-10-24 10:41:03 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.

On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
This raises a few questions:

* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?

Thank you

Michael Whapples
Michael Prokop
2009-10-26 23:19:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Whapples
2009-10-24 10:41:03 UTC
Permalink
Hello,
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.

On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
This raises a few questions:

* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?

Thank you

Michael Whapples
Michael Prokop
2009-10-26 23:19:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Whapples
I have been intending to ask this for sometime but never quite got round
to it.
On my GRML HD installation when I have been upgrading packages I keep
getting a conflict involving udev. It seems to be that libgudev
(probably is something to do with the gnome packages I have installed)
depends on libudev0 >= 146 but GRML provides libudev0 0.141-1grml.04.
* Would it be safe for me to upgrade to the Debian version of udev, I
have held off as udev is quite core to the system and I don't want to
really mess up my system.
Shouldn't cause any problems on harddisk installations.
Though having a *working* grml CD/USB-pen available is always a good
idea. ;)
Post by Michael Whapples
* Why does there seem to be a difference in the Debian package numbering
and the GRML numbering (GRML seems to be providing 0.XXX where as Debian
seems to have XXX, surely the versions don't differ as much as this
suggests).
There's no big change, it's just that the numbering scheme changed
in Debian lately. It used to be something like 0.141-1 for Debian
and 0.141-1grml.03 for the grml package, though as soon as we rebase
to Debian's 146-6 it will become something like 146-6grml.01 as well
then.
Post by Michael Whapples
* Would it be possible for GRML to provide a suitable updated udev
package to match the Debian one?
Post grml 2009.10 sure, though we are holding udev back for a number
of reasons for the current stable release.

regards,
-mika-
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