[Grml] Testing current daily ISOs to go towards new release

Discussion:

Michael Prokop

2012-05-08 13:35:28 UTC

Hi,

the current Grml daily ISOs (http://daily.grml.org/) feature a fresh
3.3.4 Linux kernel and I plan to work towards a 2012-05-rc0 release
throughout the next days.

Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen is invited to
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address
before releasing rc0.

Let's get ready to rumble :)

regards,
-mika-
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Urs Blaser

2012-05-10 13:49:46 UTC

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Hello

Post by Michael Prokop
the current Grml daily ISOs (http://daily.grml.org/) feature a fresh
3.3.4 Linux kernel
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit)

I just downloaded the ISOs for the 64bit full versions testing and sid.
But uname -r gives me 3.3.0-1-grml-amd64... what am I doing wrong?
_
And while am at it... after the last release, some of my favorite
packages where missing and I didn't took the time to post while the
discussion was hot. So if it's possible to include the following, this
would help me to not have to roll my own grml-live:
xmount
ewf-tools
guymager

But that's just part of my own favorites. Needing 25MB additional space
while uncompressed. Hope this wish doesn't comes close to release now.

Didn't had enough time yet to find some more interesting issues... ;)

Best regards
Ursus

Michael Prokop

2012-05-10 13:58:30 UTC

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Post by Urs Blaser

I just downloaded the ISOs for the 64bit full versions testing and sid.
But uname -r gives me 3.3.0-1-grml-amd64... what am I doing wrong?

This is ok, the uname doesn't strictly reflect what's inside (this
might be adjusted for the final release which will provide kernel

Post by Urs Blaser
=3.3.5).
And while am at it... after the last release, some of my favorite
packages where missing and I didn't took the time to post while the
discussion was hot. So if it's possible to include the following, this
xmount
ewf-tools
guymager
But that's just part of my own favorites. Needing 25MB additional space
while uncompressed. Hope this wish doesn't comes close to release now.

Those tools don't touch the scope of Grml close enough, 25MB
is also quite large overall, so I'm afraid they won't reach the Grml
release, sorry.

regards,
-mika-
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Urs Blaser

2012-05-10 14:29:37 UTC

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Post by Michael Prokop

Post by Urs Blaser
So if it's possible to include the following, this
xmount
ewf-tools
guymager

Those tools don't touch the scope of Grml close enough, 25MB
is also quite large overall, so I'm afraid they won't reach the Grml
release, sorry.

I don't know about the size requirements. Withoug guymager, it would
be 225kB, maybe a more acceptable size. Of course something like
aimage would be needed for the non-ewf part of the world, but sadly
this went out of debian some time ago. Maybe I should learn to package
stuff some day and help out on the upstream front...

As there's a forensic boot option and stuff like afflib-tools
provided, I don't understand the "don't touch the scope of Grml" part
too well. But of course that's my personal view and the reason I
started to use in the first place.

Best regards
Ursus

Michael Prokop

2012-05-10 15:10:41 UTC

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Post by Urs Blaser

Post by Michael Prokop
Those tools don't touch the scope of Grml close enough, 25MB
is also quite large overall, so I'm afraid they won't reach the Grml
release, sorry.

Ok, I'll discuss the situation for xmount and ewf-tools within the
team again. NACK for guymager though.

Post by Urs Blaser
As there's a forensic boot option and stuff like afflib-tools
provided, I don't understand the "don't touch the scope of Grml" part
too well.

The forensic boot option is a feature which was contributed back
by the commercial Grml-Forensic flavour.

Post by Urs Blaser
But of course that's my personal view and the reason I
started to use in the first place.

Grml focuses on sysadmin needs, we used to include a bunch of tools
that where actually outside of our scope but we had to re-focus the
project to get our available manpower at the right place.

regards,
-mika-
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Martin Cigorraga

2012-05-11 03:35:06 UTC

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Post by Michael Prokop

Post by Urs Blaser

Post by Michael Prokop
Those tools don't touch the scope of Grml close enough, 25MB
is also quite large overall, so I'm afraid they won't reach the Grml
release, sorry.

Ok, I'll discuss the situation for xmount and ewf-tools within the
team again. NACK for guymager though.

Post by Urs Blaser
As there's a forensic boot option and stuff like afflib-tools
provided, I don't understand the "don't touch the scope of Grml" part
too well.

The forensic boot option is a feature which was contributed back
by the commercial Grml-Forensic flavour.

Post by Urs Blaser
But of course that's my personal view and the reason I
started to use in the first place.

Grml focuses on sysadmin needs, we used to include a bunch of tools
that where actually outside of our scope but we had to re-focus the
project to get our available manpower at the right place.
regards,
-mika-
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Christoph Biedl

2012-05-10 21:57:08 UTC

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Michael Prokop wrote...

Post by Michael Prokop
Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen

Count me in.

Post by Michael Prokop
is invited to
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +

^^^^^^^

Post by Michael Prokop
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address
before releasing rc0.

My bad, I tried "sid" first. In Virtualbox this just stalls the entire
virtual machine, and kvm (both Debian wheezy) almost instantly gives ...

$ kvm --cdrom grml32-small_sid_latest.iso
KVM internal error. Suberror: 1
emulation failure
EAX=00000200 EBX=00000ee3 ECX=00001e00 EDX=00004b04
ESI=0000bed3 EDI=efa60000 EBP=0000b905 ESP=00000010
EIP=000001b8 EFL=00013086 [--S--P-] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=0 HLT=0
ES =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
CS =0004 00000040 0000ffff 00009b00
SS =0004 00000040 0000ffff 00009300
DS =b905 000b9050 0000ffff 00009300
FS =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
GS =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
LDT=0000 00000000 ffffffff 00000000
TR =0008 00000580 00000067 00008b00
GDT= 0000aa80 0000002f
IDT= 00000000 0000ffff
CR0=00000012 CR2=00000000 CR3=00000000 CR4=00000000
DR0=0000000000000000 DR1=0000000000000000 DR2=0000000000000000 DR3=0000000000000000
DR6=00000000ffff4ff0 DR7=0000000000000400
EFER=0000000000000000
Code=00 00 46 00 3f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 8f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 <df> 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 2f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 7f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 cf 01 79 00 00 00

Perhaps this needs some attention.

FWIW, "testing" does fine at a first glance, then virtualbox crashed
due to PEBKAC. More testing during the weekend.

Post by Michael Prokop
Let's get ready to rumble :)

I'll do my very best.

Cheers,

Christoph

Michael Prokop

2012-05-13 17:33:58 UTC

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Post by Christoph Biedl
Michael Prokop wrote...

Post by Michael Prokop
Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen

Count me in.

\o/

Post by Christoph Biedl

Post by Michael Prokop
is invited to
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +

^^^^^^^

Post by Michael Prokop
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address
before releasing rc0.

My bad, I tried "sid" first. In Virtualbox this just stalls the entire
virtual machine, and kvm (both Debian wheezy) almost instantly gives ...

Interesting

Post by Christoph Biedl
$ kvm --cdrom grml32-small_sid_latest.iso
KVM internal error. Suberror: 1
emulation failure
EAX=00000200 EBX=00000ee3 ECX=00001e00 EDX=00004b04
ESI=0000bed3 EDI=efa60000 EBP=0000b905 ESP=00000010
EIP=000001b8 EFL=00013086 [--S--P-] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=0 HLT=0
ES =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
CS =0004 00000040 0000ffff 00009b00
SS =0004 00000040 0000ffff 00009300
DS =b905 000b9050 0000ffff 00009300
FS =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
GS =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300
LDT=0000 00000000 ffffffff 00000000
TR =0008 00000580 00000067 00008b00
GDT= 0000aa80 0000002f
IDT= 00000000 0000ffff
CR0=00000012 CR2=00000000 CR3=00000000 CR4=00000000
DR0=0000000000000000 DR1=0000000000000000 DR2=0000000000000000 DR3=0000000000000000
DR6=00000000ffff4ff0 DR7=0000000000000400
EFER=0000000000000000
Code=00 00 46 00 3f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 8f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 <df> 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 2f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 7f 01 79 00 00 00 46 00 cf 01 79 00 00 00
Perhaps this needs some attention.

I can reproduce this issue. My bet is on the syslinux boot code.
AFAICS the working ISO is using syslinux 2:4.05+dfsg-2 while the
broken one provides 2:4.05+dfsg-3.

Might be:

| syslinux (2:4.05+dfsg-3) unstable; urgency=low
|
| [...]
| * Cherry-picking patch from Matthew Garrett <mjg at redhat.com> for
| isohybrid to generate MBR even when in EFI mode.

Could anyone further investigate on this one?

Post by Christoph Biedl
FWIW, "testing" does fine at a first glance, then virtualbox crashed
due to PEBKAC. More testing during the weekend.

Post by Michael Prokop
Let's get ready to rumble :)

I'll do my very best.

thanks :)

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Prokop

2012-05-13 21:17:31 UTC

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Post by Michael Prokop

Post by Christoph Biedl
$ kvm --cdrom grml32-small_sid_latest.iso
KVM internal error. Suberror: 1
emulation failure

[...]

Post by Michael Prokop
I can reproduce this issue. My bet is on the syslinux boot code.
AFAICS the working ISO is using syslinux 2:4.05+dfsg-2 while the
broken one provides 2:4.05+dfsg-3.

[...]

Yes, it's syslinux:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672520

regards,
-mika-
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Michael Whapples

2012-05-14 10:34:21 UTC

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Hello,
Just a quick note that I tried GRML daily ISO here. I tried the
full-64-bit one. I was mainly checking that the accessibility stuff
worked and I successfully got brltty and speakup with espeak for output
working. My only comment is that the volume was initially very low, but
I know setting the audio levels is difficult to do automaticaly as it
can vary between sound cards. I know in some earlier GRML releases there
was a kernel option to set the volume level, is that still present?

Also, as a separate note: Having the testing and unstable daily ISOs
caught me out, I initially downloaded the unstable/sid one but realised
before booting the CD, so I downloaded and tested the testing one.

Michael Whapples

Post by Michael Prokop
Hi,
the current Grml daily ISOs (http://daily.grml.org/) feature a fresh
3.3.4 Linux kernel and I plan to work towards a 2012-05-rc0 release
throughout the next days.
Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen is invited to
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address
before releasing rc0.
Let's get ready to rumble :)
regards,
-mika-

Michael Prokop

2012-05-14 10:42:43 UTC

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Hi,

Post by Michael Whapples
Just a quick note that I tried GRML daily ISO here. I tried the
full-64-bit one. I was mainly checking that the accessibility stuff
worked and I successfully got brltty and speakup with espeak for
output working. My only comment is that the volume was initially very
low, but I know setting the audio levels is difficult to do
automaticaly as it can vary between sound cards. I know in some
earlier GRML releases there was a kernel option to set the volume
level, is that still present?

Yeah, vol=... is supposed to adjust the audio level (as documented
at http://grml.org/cheatcodes/ ), if that doesn't work it's a bug. :)

Post by Michael Whapples
Also, as a separate note: Having the testing and unstable daily ISOs
caught me out, I initially downloaded the unstable/sid one but
realised before booting the CD, so I downloaded and tested the
testing one.

The "testing" flavour is the one we base our release on, so that's
fine. :)

Thanks,
regards,
-mika-
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Darshaka Pathirana

2012-05-15 10:32:15 UTC

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Hi!

Post by Michael Prokop
the current Grml daily ISOs (http://daily.grml.org/) feature a fresh
3.3.4 Linux kernel and I plan to work towards a 2012-05-rc0 release
throughout the next days.
Everyone who wants to see 2012-05-rc0 actually happen is invited to
grab the current daily ISOs (the testing flavours of grml-full +
grml-small, 64bit and 32bit) and report any issues we should address
before releasing rc0.

Just in case I missed something: is there no grml96-full_testing.iso?

Any YES: I definitly want to see 2012-05-rc0 happen.. ;)
Thanks!

Regards,
- Darsha

Michael Prokop

2012-05-15 15:38:29 UTC

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Post by Darshaka Pathirana

Just in case I missed something: is there no grml96-full_testing.iso?

Not yet, I'll provide one with official rc1 release then.

Post by Darshaka Pathirana
Any YES: I definitly want to see 2012-05-rc0 happen.. ;)
Thanks!

:)

regards,
-mika- - working on rc1 now
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