[Grml] Accessibility versus Packages

Christian Hofstaedtler

2011-11-05 13:22:47 UTC

Post by Konrad Schrempf
Hi,
even if I don't need the discussed accessibility-packages,
they seem to me much more important than other packages.

You're missing the point: accessibility is a feature, not just
a collection of packages. As already stated, the current Grml
developers do not have hardware, expertise, or need to support
this feature (in fact, it seems it was half or fully broken in
previous releases).

To let this feature live, someone who actually has hardware,
expertise and interest in this feature needs to step up and maintain
it in Grml. *Maintain*, not just implement and then hand it over to
bitrot. This must be an ongoing effort, or it's worthless.

A feature that's broken every other release is not something people
can depend on - in fact, if people actually rely on this feature to
DO ANYTHING AT ALL with Grml, then it is not affordable to have this
broken at any time. As soon as it's broken in one release, blind users
can no longer rely on Grml to do their work.

As currently no one can handle this effort, we felt it was necessary
to officially acknowledge this. Now that people actually *show*
interest, something good might come out of this.

Post by Konrad Schrempf
As an example I remind on the discussion about TeX/LaTeX some
time ago. Unless almost all of the packages are provided it
is necessary to install some more. So it is the same to install
all of them later.

This is something completely different - shipping some TeX packages
means additional space constraints; making Grml useful to people who
otherwise could not use it is more than a list of packages.

Post by Konrad Schrempf
For me the main point is to have that kind of running system
to be able to extend it later.
I like GRML very much for all the nice programs in textmode.
Sometimes I use X11, with a lot of xterms running ...
Is it really necessary to provide a graphical VIM? The use
of the *-register should also be possible (as a compile-option)
in standard VIM.
For cease-fire reasons you would have to remove the graphical
Emacs too ;-)
What's about packages like cowsay? I find it funny but I could
live without. GRML could still recommend some of these programs
by providing a list with interesting examples.

Make no mistake: *everything* that has been included in the past
is under review.
There are already proposals of package lists floating around that
will produce a much smaller ISO.

Bottom line: features are much more than sets of packages; do not
confuse them.

-ch

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